{"id":43552,"date":"2024-02-27T18:17:25","date_gmt":"2024-02-27T18:17:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/?p=43552"},"modified":"2024-02-29T18:15:53","modified_gmt":"2024-02-29T18:15:53","slug":"pika3d-super-3d-pen-review","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/3d-printer-reviews\/pika3d-super-3d-pen-review\/","title":{"rendered":"Pika3D Super 3D Pen Review"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I recently spent several days testing out <a href=\"https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/rankings\/best-cheap-3d-pen\/\" target=\"_blank\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"206\" rel=\"noopener\" data-lasso-id=\"102696\">many of the most popular 3D pens<\/a> across a set of standardized tests, such as drawing the same jigsaw piece.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Having spent hours with them all, including the Pika3D Super 3D, Pika3D\u2019s most popular model, here\u2019s everything you need to know about this beginner-friendly 3D pen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">My Overall Verdict<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>While it will underwhelm experienced users or professionals, it was a fun toy to play with that I\u2019d highly recommend for parents with creative children who want a new medium to test their art.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pika3D pens are a delightful line of 3D pens designed for young and aspiring creators with little to no experience creating 3D artwork.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Pika3D Super 3D Pen Test\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/1rL5lCBSY2Q?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Despite some minor issues with stringing and layer adhesion that I did not encounter with more professional-quality pens such as the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/3d-printer-reviews\/mynt3d-super-3d-pen-review\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"43572\" data-lasso-id=\"102716\">MYNT3D which I also tested<\/a>, I found the Pika3D Super to be a fantastic 3D pen for younger users and beginners who want to dip their toes into 3D drawing.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"gb-container gb-container-02b380cc gb-container-3613bd9f\" id=\"pros-cons-pattern\"><div class=\"gb-inside-container\">\n<div class=\"gb-grid-wrapper gb-grid-wrapper-d3892566 gb-grid-wrapper-dab919b5\">\n<div class=\"gb-grid-column gb-grid-column-4c1a2b72 gb-grid-column-ce5dd51d\"><div class=\"gb-container gb-container-4c1a2b72 gb-container-ce5dd51d\"><div class=\"gb-inside-container\">\n\n<p class=\"gb-headline gb-headline-8549fc1d gb-headline-text gb-headline-a7803bff\">Pros<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"gb-headline gb-headline-640b3f61 gb-headline-cca0dfdf\"><span class=\"gb-icon\"><svg aria-hidden=\"true\" role=\"img\" height=\"1em\" width=\"1em\" viewbox=\"0 0 512 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path fill=\"currentColor\" d=\"M173.898 439.404l-166.4-166.4c-9.997-9.997-9.997-26.206 0-36.204l36.203-36.204c9.997-9.998 26.207-9.998 36.204 0L192 312.69 432.095 72.596c9.997-9.997 26.207-9.997 36.204 0l36.203 36.204c9.997 9.997 9.997 26.206 0 36.204l-294.4 294.401c-9.998 9.997-26.207 9.997-36.204-.001z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"gb-headline-text\">Easy to set up and use<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"gb-headline gb-headline-caae9945 gb-headline-cca0dfdf\"><span class=\"gb-icon\"><svg aria-hidden=\"true\" role=\"img\" height=\"1em\" width=\"1em\" viewbox=\"0 0 512 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path fill=\"currentColor\" d=\"M173.898 439.404l-166.4-166.4c-9.997-9.997-9.997-26.206 0-36.204l36.203-36.204c9.997-9.998 26.207-9.998 36.204 0L192 312.69 432.095 72.596c9.997-9.997 26.207-9.997 36.204 0l36.203 36.204c9.997 9.997 9.997 26.206 0 36.204l-294.4 294.401c-9.998 9.997-26.207 9.997-36.204-.001z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"gb-headline-text\">Clear instructions and fun stencils to try<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"gb-headline gb-headline-1cd8bc83 gb-headline-cca0dfdf\"><span class=\"gb-icon\"><svg aria-hidden=\"true\" role=\"img\" height=\"1em\" width=\"1em\" viewbox=\"0 0 512 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path fill=\"currentColor\" d=\"M173.898 439.404l-166.4-166.4c-9.997-9.997-9.997-26.206 0-36.204l36.203-36.204c9.997-9.998 26.207-9.998 36.204 0L192 312.69 432.095 72.596c9.997-9.997 26.207-9.997 36.204 0l36.203 36.204c9.997 9.997 9.997 26.206 0 36.204l-294.4 294.401c-9.998 9.997-26.207 9.997-36.204-.001z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"gb-headline-text\">Safe for kids to use<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"gb-headline gb-headline-2fa07672 gb-headline-cca0dfdf\"><span class=\"gb-icon\"><svg aria-hidden=\"true\" role=\"img\" height=\"1em\" width=\"1em\" viewbox=\"0 0 512 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path fill=\"currentColor\" d=\"M173.898 439.404l-166.4-166.4c-9.997-9.997-9.997-26.206 0-36.204l36.203-36.204c9.997-9.998 26.207-9.998 36.204 0L192 312.69 432.095 72.596c9.997-9.997 26.207-9.997 36.204 0l36.203 36.204c9.997 9.997 9.997 26.206 0 36.204l-294.4 294.401c-9.998 9.997-26.207 9.997-36.204-.001z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"gb-headline-text\">The display screen is clear and easy to navigate<\/span><\/p>\n\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"gb-grid-column gb-grid-column-53e9dfd1 gb-grid-column-b97ad919\"><div class=\"gb-container gb-container-53e9dfd1 gb-container-b97ad919\"><div class=\"gb-inside-container\">\n\n<p class=\"gb-headline gb-headline-f4603f8b gb-headline-text gb-headline-a7803bff\">Cons<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"gb-headline gb-headline-d4fb25f1 gb-headline-ec22c345\"><span class=\"gb-icon\"><svg aria-hidden=\"true\" role=\"img\" height=\"1em\" width=\"1em\" viewbox=\"0 0 512 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path fill=\"currentColor\" d=\"M256 8C119.034 8 8 119.033 8 256s111.034 248 248 248 248-111.034 248-248S392.967 8 256 8zm130.108 117.892c65.448 65.448 70 165.481 20.677 235.637L150.47 105.216c70.204-49.356 170.226-44.735 235.638 20.676zM125.892 386.108c-65.448-65.448-70-165.481-20.677-235.637L361.53 406.784c-70.203 49.356-170.226 44.736-235.638-20.676z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"gb-headline-text\">Not very powerful<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"gb-headline gb-headline-9219d91b gb-headline-ec22c345\"><span class=\"gb-icon\"><svg aria-hidden=\"true\" role=\"img\" height=\"1em\" width=\"1em\" viewbox=\"0 0 512 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path fill=\"currentColor\" d=\"M256 8C119.034 8 8 119.033 8 256s111.034 248 248 248 248-111.034 248-248S392.967 8 256 8zm130.108 117.892c65.448 65.448 70 165.481 20.677 235.637L150.47 105.216c70.204-49.356 170.226-44.735 235.638 20.676zM125.892 386.108c-65.448-65.448-70-165.481-20.677-235.637L361.53 406.784c-70.203 49.356-170.226 44.736-235.638-20.676z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"gb-headline-text\">Some stringing<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"gb-headline gb-headline-92c1b787 gb-headline-ec22c345\"><span class=\"gb-icon\"><svg aria-hidden=\"true\" role=\"img\" height=\"1em\" width=\"1em\" viewbox=\"0 0 512 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path fill=\"currentColor\" d=\"M256 8C119.034 8 8 119.033 8 256s111.034 248 248 248 248-111.034 248-248S392.967 8 256 8zm130.108 117.892c65.448 65.448 70 165.481 20.677 235.637L150.47 105.216c70.204-49.356 170.226-44.735 235.638 20.676zM125.892 386.108c-65.448-65.448-70-165.481-20.677-235.637L361.53 406.784c-70.203 49.356-170.226 44.736-235.638-20.676z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"gb-headline-text\">Poor layer adhesion at times<\/span><\/p>\n\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-affiliate-plugin-lasso\"><div 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class=\"lasso-date\">\n\t\t\t\t\t11\/16\/2025 01:03 pm GMT <i class=\"lasso-amazon-info\" data-tooltip=\"Price and availability are accurate as of the date and time indicated and are subject to change.\"><\/i>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Our Tests<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>To begin testing the Pika3D Super, I started with some of the stencils that came with the pen. This was a good learning curve for using the pen as it included the basic outline of their mascot, which was fun to test out.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Though, I did find it odd that they didn\u2019t include red filament, which is the color the mascot stencil is pictured in.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-43773\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image.jpeg 800w, https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-300x150.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-768x384.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Some other stencils were a little more complicated, and the focus on creativity and ease meant they were fun to mess around with. As part of my review series of all the most popular 3D pens, I made simple jigsaw pieces, the Pika3D Super one you can see pictured above.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Comfort<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The Pika 3D Super is very well designed for comfort and long-time use. The large cylinder design is easy to hold for longer while drawing bigger designs. The extrusion also happens automatically, so you don\u2019t need to hold down a button to keep the plastic pouring onto the page.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However, If you choose to use the automatic extraction option, I recommend keeping your finger on the extruder button, as it\u2019s also used to stop the extrusion process.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-1.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-43774\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-1.jpeg 800w, https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-1-300x150.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-1-768x384.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I was pleasantly surprised to find the body itself didn\u2019t heat up even when used for over 30 minutes at a time. As long as I kept my hand away from the tip during that time, it was a perfectly safe and comfortable pen to use over long stretches.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Is The Pika3D Super Kid Friendly?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The Pika3D Super pen\u2019s box recommends the pen for adult use only, though it is still safe for children under strict and careful supervision. Only the very end of the pen became too hot to touch, and the PLA cooled and dried in an average of 6 seconds, making the projects safe to touch very soon after completion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Though if you do want a 3D pen designed specifically for young kids to use freely, I recommend checking out the <strong>Pika3D Junior instead<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The actual drawing does require a steady hand, though. So while it is completely safe to use, it\u2019s a better gift for kids who have already shown some interest in creating art rather than a complete beginner\u2019s gateway to creating.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To add to the safety features, the Pika3D Super only works when plugged in. This means if anything goes wrong you can easily unplug the wire from the pen to make it stop immediately. It also means the pen can\u2019t be left on by mistake as long as you unplug it after use.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Reliability and Versatility<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The Pika3D Super pen was very easy to set up, with the manual being laid out and written in a way that even children will fully understand. With tips on temperature tuning for ideal extrusion and troubleshooting, anyone should find the setup and use very easy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The pen itself came with a generous amount of PLA filament to use, though it works with ABS too. The built-in screen makes switching filaments a breeze as it automatically programs the ideal settings for whichever material you\u2019re using.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>While you can buy more filament directly from the Pika3D website, it does support third-party filament, so you can shop around and find a cheaper alternative if you like.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-2.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-43775\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-2.jpeg 800w, https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-2-300x150.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-2-768x384.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Installing and switching out filaments was a breeze even mid-project. However, this is where the first disadvantage of the pen becomes apparent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Compared to more professional-grade 3D pens like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.3dsourced.com\/3d-printer-reviews\/scrib3d-p1-3d-pen-review\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"43547\" data-lasso-id=\"102717\">the Scrib3D<\/a> or the MYNT3D, the Pika3D Super is a little harder to get right. Many projects came out stringy and needed scissors to even out, particularly with PLA which continued to extrude longer than desired.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>While you can tweak the temperature settings to help prevent this, it\u2019s often too late by the time the issue is noted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This issue can not only ruin your 3D drawing, but also waste a lot of filament over time. I also found that layering could have been better for the first few things I attempted to draw, making truly 3D artwork very difficult to get right.<\/p>\n            <div id=\"daexthefu-container\"\n                 class=\"daexthefu-container daexthefu-layout-side-by-side daexthefu-alignment-left\"\n                 data-post-id=\"43552\">\n\n                <div class=\"daexthefu-feedback\">\n                    <div class=\"daexthefu-text\">\n                        <h3 class=\"daexthefu-title\">Was this content helpful? 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